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James McMullen 11-29-2009 12:22 PM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
In the grand traditions of this thread, I'll go ahead and cross-post my own take on the subject:

I really don't think we need a separate Wooden Working Watercraft category. If you want to talk about wooden workboat design, you can post it in Designs/Plans. If you want to talk about constructing or fixing wooden workboats, you can put it into Building/Repair. If you want to talk about a particular type of boat from a certain area or a particularly famous boat or Captain, you can put it into the People & Places category. If you were looking for parts or something to fix your own wooden working watercraft, then you could post an inquiry under Resources/Product Search. If you just want to post pretty pictures of interesting wooden working boats and you're not sure where else to file it under, there is a category called Misc. Boat Related where such things fit perfectly.

Then of course, if you'd really just rather argue and squabble, hurl insults and invective, and denounce and demean anyone who happens to disagree even slightly with your own pet theories and prized notions, there is this category called the Bilge. So you see, the forum's already got it covered. No new topic heading is necessary.

Susanne@PB&F 11-29-2009 12:28 PM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
In keeping with his earlier approach, McMullen's contribution speaks for itself.

James McMullen 11-29-2009 12:39 PM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
Quote:

. . . . .McMullen's contribution speaks for itself.
Of course it does! Why else would I write it? I take pride in hand-crafting those mellifluous phrases and cunning word sequences that need no outside explanation. Somehow though, I get the suspicion that you are using "speaks for itself" in way to imply some obscurely derogatory connotation since I have had the temerity to disagree with you. . . .but I'm afraid I haven't really figured out what it is.

Anyhoo, this contribution is also intended to speak for itself.

Susanne@PB&F 11-29-2009 12:45 PM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
McMullen,

Findability of a coherent body of information/narratives on a most serious subject by the commercial/political 'customer'/seeker of relevant info is a real problem.

By the time you are done disintegrating the issue of Wooden Working Watercraft into all these headings, nobody from the outside will find their way into this Forum in expectation of a concise narrative of what this Forum has collected on such wooden craft.

There is no formal Thread-headline-writing convention to efficiently guide the seeker; even you or I get to pen what we like... which is not always easy to retrieve casually by the uninitiated.

James McMullen 11-29-2009 01:38 PM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
Maybe you're finding this to be a problem for your customers, but I don't see why this ought to be subsidized by the Wooden Boat Forum population at large.

If you really want to have a coherent body of information/narratives supporting your particular interest in foam-cored, plywood and epoxy wooden working craft, why don't you hire an internet marketing specialist to build you a website and database to promote this? Our own Tim (Yeadon) does work like this. You could absolutely rule this specific topic and make it so that your site comes up on the first page of Google every time by various strategems and techniques. On your own website, you can choose to delete or censor any contrary opinions at will, and furthermore, you could institute your own rigid and formal Thread-headline-writing convention so as to guide the seeker straight down the funnel of your web until he is snared by your indisputable logic and you can inject him with the chelicerae of righteous plywood workboat building.

Here on an open forum where people have a whole bunch of idiosyncratic and personal opinions doesn't seem to suit you.

aldebaran 11-29-2009 04:57 PM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Susanne@PB&F (Post 2404219)
McMullen,

Findability of a coherent body of information/narratives on a most serious subject by the commercial/political 'customer'/seeker of relevant info is a real problem.

By the time you are done disintegrating the issue of Wooden Working Watercraft into all these headings, nobody from the outside will find their way into this Forum in expectation of a concise narrative of what this Forum has collected on such wooden craft.

There is no formal Thread-headline-writing convention to efficiently guide the seeker; even you or I get to pen what we like... which is not always easy to retrieve casually by the uninitiated.

Do you really understand what it is you are writing because I have absolutely no idea, and one of your latest ideas, this with writing in bold all the time, is it because you are angry or what.
If you are angry, maybe you should just take a break from the forum and leave everybody in peace for a little while and come back with some more possitive energy

matoi 11-29-2009 06:06 PM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
IMHO wikipedia is the best internet mechanism for storing, organising and browsing various bits of human knowledge... It's a pitty there is not much on working boats yet. If anyone had some text or illustrations of any value for the subject, why not enter it over there?

Forums are extremely valuable - for sharing experience, then for discussions. But are not a very good substitute for books, encyclopedias, museums, practical training, seminars and so on...

Regards,
m

bruce w 11-29-2009 06:33 PM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
we ,my son and i have a 73 ft wood mfv that we work ,this forum is a mine of info ,the feel i get is ,if its wood and floats varnished or tar`d there is a interest and willing to help , so as a wood work boat user i feel the forum covers my interests ,as it is.

Bob Triggs 11-29-2009 06:43 PM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
Susanne, Maybe you could just start your own website under that title.. or were you headed in that direction to begin with???

Susanne@PB&F 11-30-2009 12:04 AM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
Despite the various 'sporting' propositions and ever-accelerating(downward) spirals of however gratifying speculations, the proposal is just as plain as stated in various sober submissions. Excitability of various folks notwithstanding, a simple reading of most of those should settle any concerns.

Of course McMullen's quest will remain only revealed to himself. And he's got a long way to go...

aldebaran 11-30-2009 04:25 AM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
¿Do you ever get tired of yourself?:eek:

James McMullen 11-30-2009 09:57 AM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
Ich ergebe mich!

I think it's time for me to bow out and let Susanne declare victory to her vast league of supporters.

AstoriaDave 11-30-2009 10:10 AM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
I tossed in a response early on, in the nature of "if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it." And called it good.

The thread went on so long I thought I'd check back in to see if something worthwhile had occured. Nope. this is a pointless, useless idea, whose debate has disintegrated to namecalling and personal attacks.

If I were moderator, I'd lock it up and shut it down, in its several incarnations.

Fortunately, it is easy to ignore, which is where I am heading now.

Vince Brennan 11-30-2009 04:05 PM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James McMullen (Post 2404881)
Ich ergebe mich!

I think it's time for me to bow out and let Susanne declare victory to her vast league of supporters.

Who is he?

Yeadon 11-30-2009 04:15 PM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aldebaran (Post 2404764)
¿Do you ever get tired of yourself?:eek:

How did you do the upside down question mark? I want one of those.

Quote:

Originally Posted by James McMullen (Post 2404881)
Ich ergebe mich!

I think it's time for me to bow out and let Susanne declare victory to her vast league of supporters.

Oh dear pathetic termite, one must not declare oneself infirm, not in the face of such vapid fecundity. Much is left to explore, to determine the location one must go whence upon completion. Si se puede.

L.W. Baxter 11-30-2009 07:29 PM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yeadon (Post 2405248)
How did you do the upside down question mark? I want one of those...

Some good may come of this after all. At least for those who don't know about Windows alt key codes.

¡Sí se puede!

Bob Triggs 11-30-2009 07:35 PM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aldebaran (Post 2404764)
¿Do you ever get tired of yourself?:eek:

Its all about Susanne, that is the whole point! :eek:

James McMullen 11-30-2009 09:00 PM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
¡Ay carumba! Es mejor así. Muchas gracias, Señor Baxter.

aldebaran 12-01-2009 03:19 AM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
Yeadon, I´m using a Spanish computer. pretty easy. ¿? ¡! ñ

aldebaran 12-01-2009 03:21 AM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Triggs (Post 2405505)
Its all about Susanne, that is the whole point! :eek:

Yeah, I´ve noticed that. It can be difficult to get out of viscious circles.
Hopefully she´ll get better.

andrewe 12-01-2009 03:24 AM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
Aldebaran is in Spain, his keyboard will have it on a key along with ç ~ and a few others
A

Oops! missed Ald's reply.

Paul Pless 12-01-2009 07:06 AM

Re: Should this Forum have a dedicated Wooden Working Craft category ?
 
perhaps a poll is in order

just a thought


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