Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein (Post 2410506)

I wonder if the courtroom has a ramp for wheelchairs?

Originally Posted by johnw (Post 2411372)

All right, George, you've got the attention you crave. Now poof the thread and be done with it.

Originally Posted by Bobby (Post 2411421)

this is why. http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=11621125

Originally Posted by Bobby (Post 2411421)

this is why. http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=11621125

Originally Posted by Duncan Gibbs (Post 2411449)

Is this the judge who is presiding?

Originally Posted by Phillip Allen (Post 2411436)

what makes us humans so blood-hungry? it seems most think in terms of revenge

Originally Posted by Bobby (Post 2411451)

To me it is about the law, not revenge. You do not accidently bash a baby to death. Is it about money,friends, threats. I dont know. The judge said he had no history of violence. So do we kill one baby (dog) or two before we pay our debt to society??

Originally Posted by Duncan Gibbs (Post 2411414)

If George is proved innocent ....

Originally Posted by Duncan Gibbs (Post 2411449)

I'll take that as a vote for vigilantism. Good stuff eh?

What's this case got to do with George anyhoo? Is this the judge who is presiding?

Originally Posted by Phillip Allen (Post 2411453)

okay...if it's about the law, how do you explain your disregard for the law?

Originally Posted by Bobby (Post 2411460)

My disregard? please explain:(

Originally Posted by Phillip Allen (Post 2411464)

easy...the LAW says "innocent until PROVEN guilty" It would seem that particular facet of law is an inconvience for you

Originally Posted by StevenBauer (Post 2411458)

He already admitted here that he did it.

Originally Posted by Bobby (Post 2411472)

Do you always asume so much.I dont know who you are talking about. The man I spoke of Bashed a baby against a dresser, ruptured its liver and it died. End of story. Jury said it was muder gave him life in prison. The judge said he did not think it was that bad. What do you think? It is the justice system I dont trust.

Originally Posted by Duncan Gibbs (Post 2411479)

One, or two, or even twenty cases that have gone sour do not, a system broke, make. If you prefer the alternative to the rule of law then go live in an anarchic or totalitarian state.

Originally Posted by Phillip Allen (Post 2411481)

Damn Duncan...I'm feeling wierd with us on the same side...I wonder if this makes me a wennie too :)

Originally Posted by Phillip Allen (Post 2411488)

Scot isn't needed here...so far...you just want a bit of childish indulgence for yourself...I'd bet he doesn't want to hear any of us calling for "Momma, make him stop"

did I ever say I don't like lynch mobs?

Originally Posted by Duncan Gibbs (Post 2411476)

I missed that Steven. Was the admission implicit, explicit or divined? If it was explicit then his original plea is wrong and he deserves all the schtick he gets until his debt is officially paid.

If was either of the last two then we should wait for the wheels of law to turn full circle.

Originally Posted by Saltiguy (Post 2411635)

I'm sorry to see this all raised up again prior to a official verdict.
When my son was in Cub Scouts, his Leader was arrested for "touching" (sexual assault) one of the boys. It's a long story, but I just happened to know the real story from my son, a few of his friends, and a Police friend of mine who told me the whole sorry mess about what really DIDN'T happen. This guy was TOTALLY innocent. He was a good guy who did NOTHING wrong. Nevertheless, he was railroaded into accepting a plea to a lesser charge, branded a sex offender, and given years of probation and community service. His family business was ruined, and he left town a broken man.
Don't judge, and don't ever think it couldn't happen to you.

Originally Posted by Michael s/v Sannyasin (Post 2411638)

GR is guilty, and he knows precisely what of. His bike 'accident' flowed out of the consciousness that followed his reprehensible actions. Boo-hoo. If he keeps up his arrogant attitude, then he'll just keep experiencing these little 'accidents' for the rest of his life. I suspect that is the way it will continue.

On the other hand, I know that even the most evil people can make ammends... by significant effort in the opposite direction. So, George could stand up in court, admit everything, and make a sizable donation to an animal shelter or rescue society. If he did... then I think that he would be surprised at how there were many less accidents waiting to happen around him...

But... I won't hold my breath...

And Duncan... nobody cares what you think anyway...

Originally Posted by shamus (Post 2411666)

In my opinion private judgements ought to remain private, if you want live in a decent society. Otherwise the journey to the lynching is a short one.

Originally Posted by George Roberts (Post 2410327)

I had a 9:40 appointment with my surgeon to get x-rays and evaluation of my current condition.Usually my wife and daughter go with me. It is a fun outing.But my wife and daughter had continuing professional education (CPE) today - 8-5.So my wife says "I will drop you off at 7:30 and pick you up at 5:30. Be sure to pack a lunch." I hang a red cloth grocery bag around my neck and pack food and something to do for the day into it.I got dropped off at 7:30. 18 degrees an me in shorts. I hobble inside using my walker with a red cloth grocery bag around my neck. Push the elevator button. The elevator doors don't stay open long enough for me to hobble from the button to the door. But I worked it out.The doctor's office (8 doctors perhaps 50 chairs in the waiting room) opens at 8. I check in. A little after 8, my name is called. Of course, I am sitting out of sight of the person calling my name. But I get escorted back to a patient room hobbling all the way. X-ray tech comes in to get me. I hobble back to his machine. He takes a dozen pictures. We talk about his machine. About my accident. We go back to my room - me hobbling all the way. He looks at the x-rays. He even shows them to me. The pelvis looks great. Left thigh looks great. Despite his assurance that the right thigh looks great to me it looks terrible - like I would need more surgery.I go into my room while tech and a nurse look at the pictures both commenting on how good the pictures look.Surgeon comes in a few minutes later. Tells me how good the pictures look. Says I am building bone very fast. I suggest the right thigh looks bad. He suggests cosmetic surgery to fix the ugly bones - no guarantee that I will be able to use my leg again. :)We spoke about 15-20 minutes about the next few weeks of healing. Riding on my bicycle trainer, 50% weight bearing for a couple weeks then full weight bearing, no more brace, and massaging of my thigh.I check out. I hobble down to the wrong people for checking out. I have to backtrack - hobbling. I am all done and ready to go home before 9. I call my wife and tell her what happened. She says She will come by on break, call me when she gets close, and take me back to her CPE. Fine. As I am sitting there waiting for her to call in she walks. Mad. The phone I had was on silent. I hobble out to the car. "Faster, faster." We get to the hotel for CPE. She abandons me in the parking lot - she only wanted to use my handicapped placard.I hobble to the nearest doors. Very heavy doors. A nice fellow - who knew my wife, helped me through the doors. I found where my wife's class was and found a chair I could get up from.One three occasions I got up and hobbled around the hotel. Looked the water feature in the lobby - waterfall, stream, and pond; fish, turtles. Walked around the 8th floor balcony. Every time I came back my wife was looking for me. Around 12:20 my wife got fed up with me and took me home. I hobbled out to get the paper, hobbled to the mail box - got a bicycle bottom bracket tool. Dropped all my stuff inside. Put the bicycle tool into my red cloth bag. Hobbled out to the garage and shop. Gathered up some other tools and what is left of my bicycle frame. Took the bottom bracket off. Put the parts with the rest of the salvageable parts. Put the tools away. (Made the mistake of trying to put the tools in my van. The doors were locked and I did not have keys.) Ate lunch.Not a bad trip to the doctor.

Originally Posted by shamus (Post 2411666)

This thread up the top again?
Against my better judgement I'll add a contribution, since I am a brilliant thread killer. First to rebut M s/v S, I care what Duncan thinks. Second, I'll await the verdict. Third, people are innocent until found guilty, but sometimes one has knowledge which entitles a private judgement. In my opinion private judgements ought to remain private, if you want live in a decent society. Otherwise the journey to the lynching is a short one.