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paladin 12-06-2009 10:07 AM
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*Thread deleted by George Roberts Reason: It appears that Scot is an ass*
Darn....what did I miss again?
It seems that when it suits Mr. Roberts to squeel and complain that it's
alright to get other folks threads moved or people disciplined....but
when it's the other way around someone is an A$$....or have I misread
something here....
I'm serious and not trying to make a statement.
John Smith 12-06-2009 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by *paladin* (Post 2411971)
Darn....what did I miss again?
It seems that when it suits Mr. Roberts to squeel and complain that it's
alright to get other folks threads moved or people disciplined....but
when it's the other way around someone is an A$$....or have I misread
something here....
I'm serious and not trying to make a statement.
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It's a common American trait. How many people think "freedom of speech"
covers anything I say, but "you" should be censored or punished for what
you say?
How often is a position a great position when held by one political
party, but crappy when the exact position is held by the other political
party.
Our way of life these days.
George Jung 12-06-2009 10:13 AM
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Way harsh, Mr. Smith - what is it with some folks that they seem to
prefer attributing all these negative attributes to their own
countrymen, but are more than willing to give the rest of the world a
pass? Anyone can be an ass, Mr. Smith. Even our 'foreign' friends (and
you... and me).
James McMullen 12-06-2009 10:16 AM
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I agree with Chuck. GR has been poisonous for this forum. I heartily
invite everybody to never respond to a single one of his posts.
Mrleft8 12-06-2009 10:17 AM
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I'd say that Mr. Roberts made the statement beautifully. It clearly
states his opinion of the administration of the forum, and by way of
that, his opinion of us forum members as a body.
JimD 12-06-2009 10:20 AM
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I like to think it had something to do with thread drift when I
suggested we are all responsible for world peace.
paladin 12-06-2009 10:22 AM
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Crap! Didn't anyone save it...I wanted to read it......
Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ) 12-06-2009 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by *paladin* (Post 2412000)
Crap! Didn't anyone save it...I wanted to read it......
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Yea I missed his final comment I didn't post because Ive been buisy but
I read it and I did not want to give him the time of day and I'll wait
for the verdict on the 7th.
Chuck I'm in /*total */agreement with your opening post.
Bruce Hooke 12-06-2009 10:38 AM
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I made a point of not reading that thread since I did not really want to
hear more about that whole unpleasant situation, so I may well be
missing something here, but I am thinking that before we string up our
hosts we should consider the possibility that they simply do not want
discussions of an ongoing legal matter to be showing up on their
website, since, given some of the posts from GR when the whole story was
"breaking," they may already be getting drawn into this more than they
want to.
Paul Pless 12-06-2009 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by *John Smith* (Post 2411979)
It's a common American trait. How many people think "freedom of speech"
covers anything I say, but "you" should be censored or punished for what
you say?
How often is a position a great position when held by one political
party, but crappy when the exact position is held by the other political
party.
Our way of life these days.
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WTF does any deletion from this forum have to do with freedom of speech??? .
BrianW 12-06-2009 10:48 AM
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I can only assume that since it's still visible, George deleted it
himself after asking the moderator to delete it. Now whether or not the
moderator refused, or George simply couldn't wait, is another question.
In my case, I stopped reading the thread before anything got ugly.
Phillip Allen 12-06-2009 10:59 AM
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I had'nt been keeping up with it...much. I did point out that we (the
forum in general) were leaning toward becoming a lynch mob...I do not
like mob-think!
paladin 12-06-2009 11:00 AM
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I can accept it that George was being an A$$ himself when the story
first broke...to me, and it is purely speculation, is that he had never
checked in to the forum until his "unfortunate incident" and then tried
to use the forum for his own purposes....I also accept the fact that the
administrators do not want to become involved for legal reasons, nor
should they.
When I checked in this morning I saw the deletion...and not having
followed it, was curious what would provoke that outcome. George was
obviously the one that started the thread, and was mad at Scot for some
reason...why would George ask the administrator to remove the thread,
when he himself could do so....unless he wanted it to appear that he did
not remove it......again... speculation..
rbgarr 12-06-2009 11:07 AM
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The freedom of speech issue only applies to federal, state and local
governments /making laws/ impinging on it. Among individuals and
organizations it's open season... not to say it won't raise howls of
uninformed protest.
George Jung 12-06-2009 11:07 AM
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Interesting. And perhaps I'm naive, but to what purpose would/could Mr.
Roberts use this forum? I don't see any benefit, certainly not for his
upcoming legal resolutions, and I find it difficult to imagine the
prospect of encountering a sympathetic crowd crossed his mind.
paladin 12-06-2009 11:30 AM
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When Mr. Roberts checked in I took him at face value....and then, in my
personal opinion, it seemed he was making statements elicited to provoke
responses. I was unfamiliar with his "alleged personal problems" so it
never entered my mind that something was amiss.....but the longer I read
his remarks, the more I steered away from his threads. It wasn't the
idea of provocation....most all of us will post something to see where
it goes...but his appeared to be directed to elicit steered
responses....like I said...just my perception, so I stopped reading
anything with his signature.....when I saw the thread deleted this
morning, I wondered what was up...
Cuyahoga Chuck 12-06-2009 12:04 PM
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There was a George Roberts on another boating site that was such a boil
he was asked to and agreed to stay way for keeps and all his postings
were deleted. But the postings of all those who did battle with him are
still there so it's easy to see he dredged up a lot of termoil.
This can be an informative and interesting site. But there needs to be
an interlocator to ride herd on it all. It a small price to pay to keep
this site from going phhhhht! like the aformentioned George Robert's
postings.
"There ain't no free lunch".
George Jung 12-06-2009 12:22 PM
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If only there was a mechanism for not responding to trolls, antisocials,
subversives and the like. Like, maybe, not responding to their posts, or
something.
I'll have to think about it, and get back to ya. Maybe a mass adoption
of 'block'...
TimH 12-06-2009 12:22 PM
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George Roberts has serious mental problems. Dahmer started out torturing
animals. Some people shouldnt be mingling in society.
isla 12-06-2009 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by *Tylerdurden* (Post 2411999)
Can someone please find in the bill of rights where you have a right not
to be offended?
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Is there anything in the bill of rights, or any other legislation for
that matter, which says people are obliged to accept offence without
complaining? Just asking :)
Captain Blight 12-06-2009 12:48 PM
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"Your rights end where my nose beigns."
Oh, and just in case anyone missed what got George so het up at Scot:
I posted a LINK
to a matter of public record. I don't know what made George feel he had
the right to get torqued at Scot for; perhaps he felt that I shouldn't
have demonstrated my very modest Googing skills for the public at large.
TimH 12-06-2009 12:51 PM
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Just a hunch, but Im guessing George had a list of people for Scot to
ban. Scot is probably sick of Georges games and refused.
Paul Girouard 12-06-2009 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by *TimH* (Post 2412192)
Just a hunch, but Im guessing George had a list of people for Scot to
ban. Scot is probably sick of Georges games and refused.
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I'd say you hit the nail right on the head with that Tim.
Captain Blight 12-06-2009 01:24 PM
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I wonder how much transcripts of court proceedings cost, anyhow?
Phillip Allen 12-06-2009 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by *Captain Blight* (Post 2412187)
"Your rights end where my nose beigns."
Oh, and just in case anyone missed what got George so het up at Scot:
I posted a LINK
to a matter of public record. I don't know what made George feel he had
the right to get torqued at Scot for; perhaps he felt that I shouldn't
have demonstrated my very modest Googing skills for the public at large.
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Ah...now I see...because I saw...
it looks more and more like a tangable threat was made by George's
lawyer to the WBF...George, ya kain't have it BOTH ways!
One may not censor public records...
Ross M 12-06-2009 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by *TimH* (Post 2412192)
Just a hunch, but Im guessing George had a list of people for Scot to
ban. Scot is probably sick of Georges games and refused.
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My guess is that Scott asked GR to delete the thread, which GR did under
protest.
Ross
Phillip Allen 12-06-2009 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by *Ross M* (Post 2412254)
My guess is that Scott asked GR to delete the thread, which GR did under
protest.
Ross
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say...that makes sense
TimH 12-06-2009 02:00 PM
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Yea, that could be too.
johnw 12-06-2009 02:40 PM
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Dunno what happened. George periodically starts threads to get attention
and provoke his enemies. Perhaps he thought he could get some of his
enemies banned that way.
I told him on the thread that he'd gotten the attention he wanted, now
he should delete the thread. I'm not the least offended that he deleted
it. I am offended that he took a shot at scot. I'd say the wooden boat
forum has been quite tolerant of his antics. He knows what starting a
thread will result in, and he exults in it.
My guess? He wanted the Captain banned for posting a link to a public
record, and scot wouldn't do it.
Phillip Allen 12-06-2009 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by *johnw* (Post 2412298)
Dunno what happened. George periodically starts threads to get attention
and provoke his enemies. Perhaps he thought he could get some of his
enemies banned that way.
I told him on the thread that he'd gotten the attention he wanted, now
he should delete the thread. I'm not the least offended that he deleted
it. I am offended that he took a shot at scot. I'd say the wooden boat
forum has been quite tolerant of his antics. He knows what starting a
thread will result in, and he exults in it.
My guess? He wanted the Captain banned for posting a link to a public
record, and scot wouldn't do it.
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(heavy sigh) I dissapprove of the cheap shot at our host and
if...IF...he tried to dictate to me who to ban (were I Scot), I would
defy him to the n'th degree...
S/V Laura Ellen 12-06-2009 03:03 PM
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The worst part of the thread being deleted is that the post by Stephen
Bauer will be lost forever. His post was one of those memorable ones.
Phillip Allen 12-06-2009 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by *S/V Laura Ellen* (Post 2412322)
The worst part of the thread being deleted is that the post by Stephen
Bauer will be lost forever. His post was one of those memorable ones.
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give me a hint...I don't remember if I saw it or not
S/V Laura Ellen 12-06-2009 03:07 PM
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He ask why he couldn't get a friend to give him a ride. And then
answered the question (in a way).
Phillip Allen 12-06-2009 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by *S/V Laura Ellen* (Post 2412328)
He ask why he couldn't get a friend to give him a ride. And then
answered the question (in a way).
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Ah yes...I IDID see that one...thanks
John Smith 12-06-2009 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by *George Jung* (Post 2411983)
Way harsh, Mr. Smith - what is it with some folks that they seem to
prefer attributing all these negative attributes to their own
countrymen, but are more than willing to give the rest of the world a
pass? Anyone can be an ass, Mr. Smith. Even our 'foreign' friends (and
you... and me).
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Harsh, but with more truth than most like to admit.
People are far more prone to argue for their own rights, yet frequently
deny similar rights to others. Not all, but many,.
John Smith 12-06-2009 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by *JimD* (Post 2411997)
I like to think it had something to do with thread drift when I
suggested we are all responsible for world peace.
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How can anyone be responsible for world peace? We don't have it.
Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ) 12-06-2009 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by *S/V Laura Ellen* (Post 2412322)
The worst part of the thread being deleted is that the post by Stephen
Bauer will be lost forever. His post was one of those memorable ones.
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'Twas a good one wasn't it
S/V Laura Ellen 12-06-2009 03:26 PM
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This is a picture of Paul reading the post by Stephen Bauer.
http://aylard.ca/gallery/albums/user...2/DSCF0002.JPG
*may not of really happen, but he was reading the forum at the time.
Braam Berrub 12-06-2009 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by *Captain Blight* (Post 2412221)
I wonder how much transcripts of court proceedings cost, anyhow?
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I don't know - but I did read the link and they charge a $25.00
processing fee every time something gets processed AND then charge a
$2.50 administrative fee to process the the processing fee!
Law in Okiehoma ain't cheap....
paladin 12-06-2009 03:56 PM
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Heck....Okie homa used to hang fellers for less than that....
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